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is on board, but rebels had some reservations. is the paul ryan plan an actual budget, a political manifesto or long-term liability. we will discuss when former chief white house economist douglas holtz-eek on joins us just ahead. (dog) larry,larry,larrryyy. why take exercise so seriously,when it can be fun? push-ups or sprints? what's wrong with fetch? or chase? let's do this larry! ooh, i got it, i got it! (narrator) the calorie-smart nutrition in beneful healthy weight... includes grains and real chicken, because a healthy dog is a playful dog. beneful healthy weight. find us on facebook to help put more play in your day. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile. and with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week. once you try an oral-b deep sweep power brush, you'll never want to go back. its dynamic power bristles reach between teeth to remove up
. and notably among those trying to help was paul ryan. >> what i think this all means, maria, is whoever wins this election basically is going to determine what this looks like next year. yeah, we are stuck with this current situation and the log jam that has to be broken is going to have to come up on november 6th to decide which of these two features do they want and what we're saying is here's what we'll do if we win this election. here's what the tax system is going to look like and all of those things. trying to be as clear as possible to the country so they know what they're getting if they support us. >> so they know what they're getting. whoever wins this election. congressman paul ryan saying whoever wins gets to decide which plan for taxes and spending the country's going to get. we are trying to be as clear as possible, he says, about the choice between our republican plan and the democrat's plan. that's what this election is going to be about. make a choice, america. choose the republican idea or the democratic idea and then we'll have to live with it. that's what paul ryan said l
draconian. for the paul ryan-style us a terry. the way he talks may sound like he's a bridge builder because he, himself, is hispanic and talking about the little guy who's working hard. his track record as a politician is much more like rand paul than ronald reagan. >> joy reid, david corn. thank you so much. >>> coming up, the president today has met with republicans and democrats on capitol hill. don't tell the cpac faithful. with the spark miles card from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewards for his small business. take these bags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjorn's small business earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. here's your wake up call. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase every day. what's in your wallet? [ crows ] now where's the snooze button? full of beautiful highlights and lowlights. that's why nice'n
, it's that he won't cave on his principles. >> paul ryan today put forward his budget and he says he's challenging you to come forward with a budget that also reaches balance. are you going to do that? >> no. my goal is not to chase a balanced budget just for the sake of balance. it's not balance on the backs of the poor, the elderly, students who need student loans, families who have got disabled kids. >> that's the gop's real problem. don't let them fool you. ginning me now is e.j. dionne. e.j., let me ask you, is the real problem here what i'm saying? what is the real problem, in your opinion? does the gop expect the president to cave in on his principles? >> the real problem is a huge philosophical gulf about the way forward. i was really glad that the president very explicitly said, there's nothing magical about balancing the budget in ten years. if we balance the budget too quickly and especially if we make a lot of cuts early, we're going to potentially wreck this economy. that's number one. number two, if you look at paul ryan's budget, there are incredible cuts in there to t
. on the other side of capitol hill on tuesday, house budget chairman paul ryan released a budget that he believes can get 218 republican votes, and that's it. >> the election didn't go our way. believe me, i know what that feels like. that means we surrender our principles? that means we stop believing in what we believe in? we need to put out our vision. we think we owe the country a balanced budget. >> remember, ryan's budget cuts $4.6 trillion in spending, including $2.7 trillion in health care cuts, produces no new tax revenue. but ryan also has acknowledged, this is not where the two parties are likely to end up. >> just ask a person who's watching this show, who's in business, do you start with your last offer first in a negotiation? no, of course not. we each pass our budgets, which is very important, because it creates a vehicle that we can go to conference with. so we actually have the budget process being a revived. then we start talking. then we start looking for common ground. i don't think patty's budget gives a lot of troroom for look for that common ground, but this is whe
it be a serious version of cpac, chris christie, bobby jindal, scott walker, even paul ryan with his unserious budget, but at least he's in congress with responsibility and putting himself on the line, even if it is bad ideas, but he's putting himself on the line with ideas that he thinks can help the republican party being a governing party. that's how you do a serious cpac. >> we will be covering that next week. jonathan capehart gets the last word. >>> ryan shrugged. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews. in washington. let me start tonight with this. you know the book "atlas shrugged," it's what happens when the elite of the world, people calling the shots go on job action. decide to walk away from their position, stop being captains of industry and let the country fall all around them. today, paul ryan, a total believer in "atlas shrugged" philosophy did it like in the book. mitt romney's running mate came forward with a plan that gives the biggest tax rate in the world to the richest. paying for it with huge slashes in programs for middle class working people and th
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in washington is the paul ryan budget. it's the same budget paul ryan and romney ran on in the election when they lost with the weaknesses that caused them to lose like taking a hatchet to health care and the generous tax cut to the rich that somehow pays for its. what you want details? you know better than that. this is groundhog day in republican politics. soon, they are going to float hillary clinton is going to replace joe biden as vice president again. all of this stuff, the welfare lie, the obama phone lie. the kill medicare budget that we don't have to explain, trust us. it's republicans trying to get traction on stuff they did not get traction on before when they were busy trying not to lose in the november elections and they lost anyway. in that election, it was actually the democrats who really did get traction on part of that issue. it was democrats who did get traction when this tape showed the republicans real argument on this stuff and all the naked behind closed doors glory. the republican's presidential campaign showing 47% of the country was accustomed to voting. romney sayi
. in an interview with abc news, the president slammed paul ryan's insistence on deep, drastic spending cuts saying we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. in fact for the next ten years, it's going to be in a sustainable place. the question is, can we do it smarter, can we do it better? if the only goal of a budget was to make it as small as possible, congressman paul ryan would be your man. his budget reduces the deficit by an additional $2.75 trillion compared to senator patty murray's plan. but the race to a budget is not the goal of a budget. foumtly a budget is a reflection of your core values, and which investments you believe are necessary. to those who say government should treat its budgets the way households do, it's important to point out that a family's budget works the same way. parents don't pull their kids out of school or deliberately starve themselves or stop going to the doctor for the singular doing mattic purpose of spending as little as possible. and taking out kretic is both part of american culture and key to growing the economy. for instance, 71% of americans ta
mate, paul ryan? certainly this young man can rile up the crowd, bring rock 'n' roll to the room. i mean, nothing gets him going like a good old bash of the democratic budget. >> they call their budget a foundation for growth. restoring the promise of american opportunity. but when you read it, you find that the vatican's not the only place blowing smoke this week. >> oh, zing. the catskill comedy clubs are lighting up the switch boards even as i speak. that kind of edge must be what mitch mcconnell was talking about when he joked about the gop contrast to the next round of democratic presidential hopefuls. >> don't tell me democrats are the party or the future when their presidential ticket for 2016 is shaping up to look like a rerun of the "golden girls." >> now it's good to see mitch mcconnell looking so pleased with himself, but it's worth remembering that the "golden girls" was immensely popular, rated in the top ten for six of its seven seasons. never mind. republicans do deserve a good laugh and the jokes today for plentiful. for example, donald trump. >> i've made over $8 bi
. congressman paul ryan taking in that budget cuts, as well. republicans put forth their own spending blueprint. response.e republican >> president obama and senate democrats say they want a balanced approach to our fiscal issues but their budget is ever balance, ever. taxesd they want to raise to fuel more spending. we know where this path leads, straight into a debt crisis. what does look like? first lenders will demand a higher interest rate. higher interest rates across the country will skyrocket on credit cards, mortgages, car loans. if interest rates rise debt payments will overwhelm all other items in the budget. the debt will overwhelm our economy. our finances will collapse. the safety net will unravel. the most honorable will suffer. you think this cannot happen here? just look at europe. we do not accept that future, not for our children and country. today we invite president obama to do with president clinton did, to work with republicans in congress to balance the budget. he can join in the efforts or he can choose the status quo. but he must choose. the american people deserve an
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that one, next. >>> paul ryan isn't radical enough for some republicans. a new gop plan is calling for even bigger government cuts. and later, find out why gay marriage is causinging a north carolina pastor to stop performing weddings for straight couples. join ed schultz in his new time slot, 5:00 to 7:00 saturday and sunday coming soon. share your thaulgt thoughts with us on facebook and twirt. us on facebook and twirt. we'll be right back. herbal essences smooth and shine collections are back and more irresistible than ever. [ ding ] [ moaning ] [ male announcer ] with rose hips and chamomile... you'll fall in love with your hair... yes! yes! yes! [ male announcer ] ...all over again. herbal essences. say yes again to naturally irresistible hair. >>> the minimum wage is not a living wage. we have a new number of what the minimum wage should be and it should chain anyone who insists that the minimum wage remain the same. if it kept pace with worker productivity, it would be far higher than what anyone is calling for. >> if we just started in 1960, not the high water mark for minimum wage,
. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] >>> paul ryan's budget is expected to hold sway after a series of votes, but it won't be for lack of trying by the democratic minority. to talk about the contrasting policies, jim clyburn. mr. leader, thank you for being with us. >> thank you so much for having me. >> first of all, the budget fights ahead, it's clear that the house votes are all going to go the republicans' way, but right now the senate is even talking about voting in favor of paul ryan's budget, even though they don't want it to pass. so what -- what are the competing tactics right now on the ryan budget? >> well, i don't know exactly what the senate's plans might be, but i do know this. the ryan budget will inflict so much pain on middle income americans until it will absolutely wreak havoc in their families. so what i am hopeful, is that we can get the votes to pass the democratic alternative to the ryan budget. we don't believe that we ought to be raising taxes on middle income americans, which is exactly what the ryan budget will do. if you are going to sort the vou
year. >> but jay, paul ryan, at their lunch, paul ryan's lunch was their first conversation other than the brief meeting at the house republican caucus. so it was the first time that he had actually sat down as republican budget chair with the president. united states to talk about policy and the way forward. >> first of all, again andrea, i could bore your viewers to death with the list of meetings the president has had with congressional republicans, it goes on and on and the hours he spent with the speaker of the house and congressional leaders in 2001. i think rivalled engagement at that level of any recent president in, with their opposition counterparts. there's no, there's no comparison. what we do have is a change in circumstances. because as you know, we've been governing from crisis to crisis with manufactured deadlines now, repeatedly whether it was the debt ceiling negotiations or the super committee. or the fiscal cliff or the sequester deadline. now because republicans chose to embrace the sequester, let it take place, let it be implemented with all its negative impacts,
these days. they're going to go with it, they're going to make it work. and for paul ryan to be fighting that battle all over again -- after it was sort of was at the core of the 2012 election, some might argue it's what helped the president win re-election. they're going to argue that again? why? and the president will, will fight to defend medicare. he will fight to defend medicaid. because they're crucial to obama care. now james said i don't know why he's cutting medicare. there are going to be some strategic cuts around the borders. but the president is not going to give up on medicare and he's not going to give up on medicaid. and that was really what the 2012 election in terms of domestic policy was really all about. >> james, is this terrible strategy for the republican party in the long-term? >> i cannot believe that it's four and a half months after the election and they haven't sort of public strategic debate among each other and they're all sort of out there attacking each other. i've been around politics for a long time and a lot of people on this panel, i've been through a
. there is this hope of reaching the common ground with the proposal put forth with paul ryan. that's the big question. or is this war already too far gone to find out what the white house has called a caucus of commonsense. >> we have a balanced approach to this as opposed to an uncompromising approach. now, i understand that paul's position is sort of their extremist position. hopefully by the end of the day we will be able to bridge these differences. >> i don't think patty gives a lot of room for that common ground but i think the president can get engaged, which we can find common ground on spending cuts that get us on a path towards getting our debt stabilized. >> even as they press for the president to take a more active engagement in washington's fiscal followlie fiscal follys, the -- >> the question is, he is going to go out on the campaign trail and start campaigning against us? was it a poll-driven political calculation? >> joining me is south carolina democratic congressman, james clyburn. a $1 trillion increase in tax revenue proposed by the murray plan, 4.$4.25 trillion in savin through
a rerun of "the golden girls." we got rand paul. we got marco rubio. we got paul ryan. and the other guys, they got hillary and joe biden. >> yikes. that's senate minority leader mitch mcconnell yesterday poking fun at the democrats, leading contender for 2016. the come, as you might imagine, ruffled feathers, even in his own statement kentucky's democratic party chairman wants mcconn toll apologize. an into the political playground we go. talk about turning an awkward tv moment into a moneymaker, senator marco rubio's political action committee is selling water bottles with his name on them at cpac this weekend. as you can see, they are charging $25 a bottle. if you remember, rubio made that memorable lung for his water bottle in his middle of the state of union rebuttal last month. >>> and it sounds like a reality show but actually the white house kicking off a new audio series called "beinged ed "beie a listen. >> a couple guys in their hunting shirts i'm serving a meal to, along with folks you see in the background. >> the white house says the idea is for people to know the story beh
at another high-profile republican. this morning paul ryan gave the republican weekly address and pushed his budget proposal explaining why he is so focused on balancing the budget. >> the budget is a means to an end. we are not balancing the budget as an accounting exercise. we're not trying to simply make numbers add up. we're trying to improve people's lives. >> so, andy, if paul ryan connecting a balanced budget to improving people's lives, do you think the gop senses it needs to do a better job of explaining why balancing the budget should matter to people? >> paul ryan obviously understand that point. he realizes as we just heard that connecting the budget, this is an issue that maybe the republican party can use to reach out to hispanic voters, to reach out to women voters, to reach out to those blocs that the party has had so much trouble with. the problem is the product paul ryan is offering is absolutely no different from the product that has been so unpopular in the past. so maybe they can put new wrapping on the report or a new message behind it. the nuts and bolts of it are real
program and as paul ryan has with major new tax cuts and then imagine how you are going to sort of put that together in the end, that is a fundamental different. they are protective and therefore the permanent campaign hardball but they are not prepared to put at risk the full faith and credit of the united states. they are not prepared really to shut the government down. they just won't do that because they believe the government plays an important role. and i think conservatives, real conservatives want the government that they have and not a bit more or that they need, but they are not -- they are not wild and crazy about just dumping on that. and i think we have -- it is almost a radical perspective, not a conservative perspective against one that is more protective of the government, and i think the difference is real. >> i just want to throw out a theory that you can keep in the back of your head and i want to go to the hash tag even worse caucus where we have some comments. one theory is all bill clinton's the five false and i would explain that by saying that starting in the 19
congressman paul ryan defended his budget as a document of vision. >> our budget encapsulates what we think is the right way to go. fundamental tax reform for economic growth. patient center care rhee placing obama care. a responsible balanced budget. >> meanwhile, abc this week, house speaker john boehner says although they disagree, he trusts president obama. >> the president and i, as i've made very clear, have a very good relationship. we're open with each other. we're honest with each other. but we're trying to bridge some big differences. >> so do up trust president obama? >> absolutely. >> absolutely? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. firearms, flip-flops and flights to the middle east will all be part of what next week in washington will look like. lots to talk about. i want to get right to it. msnbc contributor goldie tailor of the goldie taylor project and david of the "the washington p." good to see all of you. good story with the republicans rank, when ohio senator rob portman, want co-sponsor of doma, defense of marriage act, snu ports same-sex marriage citing his gay son. house sp
paul ryan's budget released tuesday balances the budget in ten years. highlights include repeal of the health care law, an overhaul of ped care making it a private insurance plan funded by vouchers and unspecified reforms of the tax code with a goal of creating two brackets -- 10 and 25%. >> to inflate the claims of deficit reduction. >> reporter: hours after the president meets with house republicans he will speak at a dinner for organizing for action, the retooled version of his campaign in a move that's rankling some republicans saying it runs counter to his outreach. despite the rhetoric, lawmakers haven't ruled out the possibility of a grand bargain for deficit reduction. that seems like tough sled eing given how sharply divided both sides remain. matt? >> kristen welker at the white house. thank you very much. >>> we have an important health alert this morning tied to the commonly prescribed antibiotic known as the z-pack. 50 million people take it every year. now the fda warns it may lead to a fatal irregular heart rhythm in some patients. dr. goldberg is a cardiologist f
to hear what congressman paul ryan's reaction to this new pope is given the way the catholic church responded last year to his budget. that being said, and we can't have a reaction yet from him, what is the greatest challenge that this pope faces? >> i think he has two obvious challenges. one is to address publicly and forcefully the sexual abuse scandal in this country. and throughout the world, actually. but in this country specifically. >> because i come from britain where, of course, there were multiple scandals. >> and ireland. >> indeed. >> so he's got to address that publicly. something that neither of the past two popes really did. i think that's essential. i think the other essential thing from everything you read and everything that's been reported and everything that you hear from members of the clergy, he's got to get his hands around the management aspect of the vatican. the secrecy that shrouds so many aspects. >> its governance? >> its governance. the government nance of the bank. the vatican itself. it's been run by a handful of men for too many years with the window
was in a different position. you got to have a wisconsin mini primary, apparently, with paul ryan. walker notably would not pledge to serve a full second term. one more thing. all the 2016 speculation was not on the republican side this weekend. former white house adviser david plouffe weighed in on the presidential election at the 92nd street y. >> i'm not going to speak to what secretary of state clinton will or will not do. she is in both parties now. by far i think the most interesting candidate. probably the strongest candidate. >> there you go. his fellow delawarean probably doesn't like to hear that. but he probably knows that that's true. >>> finally, the inability to jump start the middle east peace process has been one of the president's bigger failures on foreign policy of the first term in office. though it's a failure that he didn't necessarily have a lot of control over. at the beginning of his first term, the president declared with great fanfare he wouldn't follow the lead of his predecessors presidents clinton and bush and wait until a second term to push for middle east peace. >
. >> and the hangover of the paul ryan budget. that would disproportionately -- >> and also obama care which is amazingly popular. incredibly popular among african-americans, latinos and asian americans and the republicans want to repeal it, still. >> and eugene is right. it goes back to the central problem in the autopsy. and that is, this is, they're approaching this as a marketing problem. and that somehow if we change the color of the cereal box, that inside the cereal will taste much better and sell better. this isn't about hiring more walmart greeters, right? this is about having them come into communities with a different message. that's what's going to be fundamentally hard. look, i -- took part in a really long, tough primary in 2007 and 2008 with hillary clinton. it went the distance. but it wasn't a divisive ideological prime. it was about who was going to be the salesman against never before african-american candidate and a never before female candidate at that level. and these guys are having a very, very different, as you can see from those clips, this is fundamentally and ideo
wasn't invited got 7%. paul ryan and scott walker finished fifth and sixth. we'll be right back. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. [ robert ] we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. >>> welcome back to "hardball." former secretary of state hillary clinton ventured back into politics today when she announced her support for gay marriage in a video for the human rights campaign. let's watch. >> lgbt americans are our colleagues, our teachers, our soldiers, our friends, our loved ones. and they are full and equal citizens and deserve the rights of citizenship. that includes marriage. that's why i support marriage for lesbian and gay couples. i support it personally and as a matter of policy
'll face within each chamber. it is what happens when paul ryan and patty murray tried to reconcile the two. and there will certainly be an attempt to do that. because these are the two packages, or this is the vehicle that the president is looking to to try to get something larger on the debt and deficit. because there are very few remaining paths for the president to try to get a grand bargain. one is the budget process that is commencing simultaneously in each chamber for the first time in a good number of years. so this is an unusual circumstance and one that provides an opportunity for the president, however, like i said, very, very different plans. >> let's talk about that. you wrote a piece that i really enjoy. in that piece you wrote, you called the budget process as we now know it, a sham of sorts. how so? >> well interesting budget doesn't have a force of law. it isn't signed by the president of the united states. we didn't have a budget from 1789 to 1921. until that time, the congress just passed appropriations bills, funded wars, civil wars, the end of slavery, et cetera, et cet
. chris christie who wasn't invited got 7%. paul ryan and scott walker finished fifth and sixth. we'll be right back. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. >>> welcome back to "hardball." former secretary of state hillary clinton ventured back into politics today when she announced her support for gay marriage in a video for the human rights campaign. let's watch. >> lgbt americans are our colleagues, our teachers, our soldiers, our friends, our loved ones. and they are full and equal citizens and deserve the rights of citizenship. that includes marriage. that's why i support marriage for lesbian and gay couples. i support it personally and as a matter of policy and law. embedded in a broader effort to advance equality and opportunity for lgbt americans and all americans. >> well
, borrowing more and spending more is not a path to prosperity. >> that was congressman paul ryan on the hill. pleased that democrats are bringing bunts budgets to the table. maryland congressman chris van holland is the ranking member on the house budget committee. he joins me now, congressman van holland. good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon to you, luke. >> i want to get your take on house republicans are panning the democratic budgets that will be voted on tomorrow. your budget, the black caucus budget, the progressive budget, various ones have no chance of becoming law. is there any worry that the idea that republicans are putting forward that our budget balances, our budget balances, a very good sound bite that can work in mid-term elections. whereas you guys' isn't balanced until about 2040. is there any worry that the message could take hold and cause problems for you in the 2014 mid-terms? >> no, luke, for this reason -- the republican budget, the ryan budget balances on the backs of middle income taxpayers. it balances by violating our commitment to our seniors, through the vouc
-term budget deficit and the house is poised to take up congressman paul ryan's budget tomorrow. joining me right now republican congresswoman marsha blackburn of tennessee. i want to start by showing everybody the new poll numbers. both sides have taken a hit when it comes to the budget hit. 67% disapprove of the way the president has dealt with the budget. 79% disapprove of the republicans on this. people at home think it's just absolutely ridiculous. will those numbers push both sides to find a compromise before it's too late, before the numbers continue to go down any further? >> you. thomas, i think you're right. they do want to see a resolution to this and what they're wanting to see a resolution to first is the out of control spending. get this out of control spending under control. and that's what we hear from both sides of the aisle, from our constituents, regardless of whether they're democrat, independent, republican, libertarian, you name it. they say, washington spends too much. you don't have a revenue problem. you have a spending problem. get it all under control. that is wha
trick of paul ryan to recognize if you only talk about budget deficit, where does your budget put the deficit 20, 30 years from now, the amount of things you sneak in under that cloak that you can never put into the conversation in a serious way in normal times is tremendous. that's the central political innovation of his career. >> the favorite thing in the accounting discussion is compare the government to a family, saying you couldn't -- well, families do run debt, they cannot afford to buy their houses for cash, so they have a thing called a mortgage, which is the national debt of the family in effect. they try to oversimplify everything in this, but is there some break through in this point of republicans saying you know what, the debt isn't such a serious problem? >> there's no break through. i think it is a big deal that john boehner and others can't uphold this that the debt crisis is coming now or soon. if you go through what he said further, he said it is looming and coming. this is always the thing, with this spring of deficit hawk, there's always in some future the gre
? >> well, first of all, luke, paul ryan has an important job to do which is to understand the numbers, understand where we're at with our debt and with our spending issues. look, we are not losing the issues on the math. we're not losing the issues on spending and debt and jobs and the economy. those are total winners for us. what we found in the election is while we're winning the arguments on spending and math, we're losing sort of this emotional cultural vote out there in presidential elections. and it didn't just happen overnight, luke. i mean the fact is our parties have a tough time over the last 24 years winning decisive presidential elections. and it's our job as a party to get to the bottom of why that is. and that's what we're trying to do. so, you know -- >> okay. let's talk about that emotional cultural vote. your predecessor said this this morning on "morning joe" about the issues you have in minority community. >> how does he reconcile his agreement with voter registration policies that many in the black community view as anti-black, racist? you can show up any time. it'
, paul ryan is talking about 6.1 trillion of deficit reduction the next ten years and almost all of from the spending side. party murray on the budget side of the democrats is talking $2.3 trillion of deficit reduction and half come from taxes and the balance come from spending, 975 billion from spending. a vast difference in size and significant difference in priorities. if you try to break down those priorities and look at some different categories of spending, you can see that in the discretionary side, this is the stuff that the sequester effects. ryan wants to cut 1.2 trillion which is 3 billion more than the sqester. party murray wants to cut 600 billion less than the sequester so the democrats the to store 600 billion of the sequester money. the democrats want 100 billion for jobs -- >> can i interrupt you there? par patty murray knows they will restore a dime -- >> i am trying to highlight major differences between the two sides. >> explaining to people at home, that's a good negotiating start if i were patty murray and a democrat, that's exactly where i would start knowing we ar
to lead this party? >> yeah, paul ryan gave it an interesting appealing thought-provoking speech. and marco rubio gave a very emotional speech. rick santorum gave one of the more barn burning rhetorically -- his speech was as goods on the merits of did it move people. >> and he said basically if we had better candidates we might have won the white house. >> yeah. >> bill: how about band paul. >> rand paul's moment was ta very big moment. he came out with the big binders that were the entire transcript of his 13-hours of filibuster. and there were hundreds of people with these stand with rand signs. he has inherited his dad's organization, fervor basically, and he is expanding it. and he could be the most interesting person on the right, because he has this broadening ability to get into the left with his anti-war libertarianism. >> bill: i love where rand paul says we have to reshape everything to move forward and he gets 25% of the votes and then marco rubio who is saying we don't need any new ideas, and he gets 24% of the vote. so it seems like they are spli
trump, paul ryan. if you need any more evidence of the divide that exists in the republican party consider this, one of the most popular figures in the party, new jersey governor chris christie, a guy who praised president obama's response to hurricane sandy last fall, was not invited. >> all right, peter alexander in washington. peter, thank you very much. >>> to the vatican where pope francis is addressing his cardinals as he settles into his role as leader of the vatican church. natalie is at the vatican, good morning to you. >> good morning to you, savannah. well in style and substance we're seeing a new tone already for the papacy. a message of simplicity, shunning wealth, and a message of humility. in his meeting with the cardinals this morning, pope francis was getting off the throne and just stumbled there, proving he is human, and proving that he is not perfect. in his first mass before them thursday, according to reports, the pope refused to even deliver the homily that was prepared for him and instead chose to preach off the cuff using his own words, and not from the pa
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